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Post by Kilvas Wed May 26, 2010 4:21 pm

Figured it was worth posting. For the DS. It's apparently a remake of FE3. I'm kinda dissapointed. I was hoping for something new. D:

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/fe/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7YUdttO2q8
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Post by RESSURECTED LYLE DAYEK Wed May 26, 2010 4:53 pm

Yeah. I'd download it for the R4. But I wouldn't pay for it.

I WOULD like to see a new FE game. RD was great and they should build upon that gameplay style, but have actual supports.

They need to keep the gameplay, because it worked and wasn't complex or boring but work on their story and their characterizations.
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Post by Rise: The Game Wed May 26, 2010 5:38 pm

oh its mystery of the emblem. coolsauce
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Post by Tatsuya Thu May 27, 2010 8:03 pm

Would I pay for it, probably not since I finally got a decent emulator working for the DS working enough. I'll definately play it at least once, I think it will have the same one time play ablity that Shadow Dragon gave me.
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Post by The Universe Thu May 27, 2010 10:20 pm

This is FE11 people, remakes (Especially shitty remakes *glares at shadow dragon*) don't count.
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Post by RESSURECTED LYLE DAYEK Thu May 27, 2010 10:34 pm

Except this is a remake as well.
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Post by Rise: The Game Thu May 27, 2010 11:49 pm

Well shadow dragon was pretty good. Also, its FE12.
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Post by RESSURECTED LYLE DAYEK Fri May 28, 2010 8:30 am

Didn't play shadow dragon yet. Waiting for R4. I heard that it was functional, but the story and characterization was completely absent.

Story has never been too amazing in the FEs I've played. They've worked, but they always seem to be: Evil syndicate, Royal hero prick who doesn't know the first thing about fighting actual people to start, develops a great human resources department to find a bunch of people who DO know how to fight, and even more people who DON'T know how to fight, fight all the baddies in order of weak->strong, take down some giant dragon boss thing at the end, and then win.

Supports were always interesting, in the sense that you can learn about the people you actually care about, while completely ignoring people you don't; Makalov, Devdan, etc etc whomever floats your boat.

But Shadow Dragon didn't have supports. Neither did RD. And that's a big part of the FE series. So shadow dragon had combat, probably GOOD combat, but if I want to just fight and fight over and over again, I'll play RD and save some money.

Or wait for the R4 to finally arrive and play it for free when I get bored of pokemon. Or one of the other games I plan to download illegally for free.

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I love how I've gotten to the point where I can review something without ever seeing more of a game than a few screenshots.
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Post by Nightmare Fri May 28, 2010 8:53 am

RD had supports, they just weren't very good or long. I'm surprised you, who have played it 18 times by now, have missed that.

Also, FE9 (Path of Radiance) wasn't about a Royal™️ prick. On the contrary, it was about a commoner prick who got to beat up Royal™️ pricks and without a giant dragon end boss. RD was more or less the same, with a Royal™️ prick on the side and Ike hogging the spotlight (which I don't really mind). RD also didn't have the giant dragon end boss, though it had something like that but it wasn't really an end boss, so...

Slade Wilson wrote:I love how I've gotten to the point where I can review something without ever seeing more of a game than a few screenshots.

Are you being sarcastic here because I have a feeling you're not
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Post by RESSURECTED LYLE DAYEK Fri May 28, 2010 9:44 am

Well, I don't count the RD supports as supports. At least for the context I was describing them. The helped in battle no doubt, with supports I made Volke have 100% crit and 100% hit with Gamble. But as far as the characterization they really didn't help at all. With the exception of a handful of paired endings.

And Ashnard was on a dragon. And on Hard mode he turned into a green monster thing. So I count him.

An RD had you fight a god. Close enough to a suped up dragon thing. It was more about the crazy boss thing than the dragon itself.

And Ike wasn't technically royal, but Greil was in the Daein army as kinda a royal guy. And Ike fits the rest of the description anyway. So he counts.

And I was kinda being sarcastic, but mostly just taking the piss out of myself.


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Post by Nightmare Fri May 28, 2010 10:23 am

So basically, it's like I tell you that the vegetable in your hand is a carrot and you don't like carrots (let's say this is true for the sake of this example) and then I ask you why are you so intent on eating it. Then you tell me it has one green spot so you don't count it as a carrot.

I guess it works for me.

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Post by The Universe Fri May 28, 2010 11:00 am

Slade Wilson wrote:Except this is a remake as well.

Well fuck.

Asbel Lhant wrote:Well shadow dragon was pretty good. Also, its FE12.

SD was good cause FE1 was good simple as that. When you remake something on modern console, you're not just supposed to update graphics. You're supposed to add things you weren't able to cause technical limitations, things that would later become a staple of the series, Supports, for example. They added somethings like online multiplayer (At last.) and a weapons pimper, but there was alot more they could have done.

Now when I said I don't count remakes as sequels I think i used remakes the wrong way.

A remake would be the game that is re-made without the technical limitaitons of it's time.

SD was more of an updated re-release, and that's what I don't count as a true sequel.

As far as I'm concerned we're at FE11 right now, and pending on weather they put effort into this game, we'll either be at 12, or be stuck at 11.

Nightmare wrote:RD had supports, they just weren't very good or long. I'm surprised you, who have played it 18 times by now, have missed that.

Also, FE9 (Path of Radiance) wasn't about a Royal™️ prick. On the contrary, it was about a commoner prick who got to beat up Royal™️ pricks and without a giant dragon end boss. RD was more or less the same, with a Royal™️ prick on the side and Ike hogging the spotlight (which I don't really mind). RD also didn't have the giant dragon end boss, though it had something like that but it wasn't really an end boss, so...

Slade Wilson wrote:I love how I've gotten to the point where I can review something without ever seeing more of a game than a few screenshots.

Are you being sarcastic here because I have a feeling you're not

I completely agree with this post.

Anyway before this goes any further I think we can all agree on one thing.

PoR had the best support system, and they should bring it back for this game or the next.
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Post by Kilvas Fri May 28, 2010 11:15 am

FE11, wasn't bad. They just needed to update it a bit, with more than just graphics. They at least needed to add shoveing and rescuing or something.

Also.
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PoR had the best support system, and they should bring it back for this game or the next.
I completely agree with this.
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Post by Kilvas Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:17 pm

Learned a couple new things:

-To be realeased in Japan July 15th.

-You create a character, like in FE7. But better. You get to change gender, hair, eye color, and facial features.

-You're the main character, not Marth.

-And I think they're gonna be new maps and Gaiden chapters or something.

And a couple other things I can't remember ATM.

More info here:
http://www.fesos.de/index.php?news=532
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Post by Rise: The Game Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:45 pm

Thats awesome.
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Post by Arc Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:41 pm

I was largely disappointed by FE11. It just didn't have that magic quality I felt from 7 or 10.

So... if this game is just gonna be like the last one I might skip it.
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