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Post by RESSURECTED LYLE DAYEK Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:48 pm

Well, they give you a lot of units with issues like Sanaki, Ena, Kurth, etc etc etc and they give you a lot of uber units too: Caineghis, Naesala, Tibarn, Renning, Stefan, Volke, etc etc.

The difference, and this is the problem, is that most of the crappy units are forced. While the only good unit that is forced, is Ike.

If they allowed you to take whom you WANTED to take, like you know, what FE games are SUPPOSED to do, then having crappy units at the end is no problem. However, they force you to take at least 4 (Arguably 5 if you count Micaiah) crappy units, but if you want to take an uber unit, that goes against units you have to pick yourself. Of which you only have 10.

And I understand that Ena, Kurth, and Sanaki are important for plot, but Sothe doesn't have ANY lines except for the scene with the parchment thing. And he has just as many lines as Naesala does if he shows up. Why not just boot Sothe out of the dialogue, replace him with Ike, and then you can pick your very own extra unit.

I can GUARENTEE 95% of the people would take Volke over Sothe, if Sothe was not forced. I GUARENTEE. And if I am wrong about it, then I will stirp all my clothes off and run around in a blizzard for an hour.
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Post by Songbird Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:49 pm

I don't mind using units like Pelleas, Sanaki and all other units who are underleveled because I love challenges. The harder it is to take care of a unit, the prouder of them I am when/if they grow into an excellent unit. Even if many tantrums and throwing of Wiimotes are included in the process. They still require plenty of babying at times (I'm lookin' at you, Sanaki) but I'm so used to looking after those weaker units that I don't think I've ever really realized that it would probably be less stressful otherwise. :D

Besides, there's so many incredibly useful and overpowered units that I guess it's only fair that they throw a few difficulties our way. Keeps things interesting, in my opinion.

And on the matter of Sothe, I agree that IS made a bad call on making him pretty weak for a main character. I don't think I've liked using him in any part he's available. EXP hog in part one, beginning to be overshadowed by others in Part 3, only tolerable in Part 4. I don't mind too much on using him though, because as I mentioned before I don't really mind being forced to use weaker units. XD
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Post by RESSURECTED LYLE DAYEK Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:29 pm

This is my third attempt at posting here. Each of the last two times my internet gave out. They were both well thought out posts, and I remained articulate and explained my feelings rationally.

Now here's what I feel like saying:

Slothe Sucks.

Every other unit is useable at the very least. Slothe forces you to use him, even though he's no better than a fucking monkey.
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Post by Songbird Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:29 pm

Ouch! Stuff like that happens to me alllll the time. I remember getting so frustrated once when my essay-long post wasn't sent and I ended up losing all of it. Since then, especially because of the unstable state my computer's in, I make a habbit of copying or saving any long posts I write every so often just in case anything crashes. XD

But you got your point across about Sothe. I still like him as a character, though. :D
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Post by RESSURECTED LYLE DAYEK Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:41 pm

Eh. Even as a character I don't really like him. He doesn't really have much of a place in it. And he kept on trying to force himself into it.

In fact, his purpose in the story tied directly to his usefulness as a character:

Part 1: Often involved, taking spotlight from other cooler units.
Part 3: Role started to dwindle, showed how much of a wimp he was.
Part 4: Before dissappearing into uselessness he had one last little quif of attempted spotlight before suffering to the memories of the forgetfull.
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Post by Kilvas Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:07 pm

Lol. You like to get real technical about characters and stats and such. I don't like doing that, it doesn't make it much fun. I just use who I like and that's it. Even if they are "bad units". By all means, let them be, it adds to the challenge.
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Post by Songbird Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:20 pm

Princess Kilvas wrote:Lol. You like to get real technical about characters and stats and such. I don't like doing that, it doesn't make it much fun. I just use who I like and that's it. =x

I have to admit, I'm usually pretty much the exact same way. XD

Supports were another way I'd decide what characters I'd bring in a playthrough, but Radiant Dawn destroyed the support system so I can't use it in this case. D:
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Post by RESSURECTED LYLE DAYEK Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:28 pm

Lol. Well, yeah. But usually my favorite units are the ones that have good stats. Those who don't have good stats, tend to try my patience. As Slothe has inevitably done.
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Post by Kilvas Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:37 pm

Lol, I guess I just have more patience then. xD

But nobody seems to like my units. Especially Master Soren. D:
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Post by RESSURECTED LYLE DAYEK Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:50 pm

Lol. What are you talking about? Didn't Songbird say she loved using Soren?

And I like Soren, but you don't like Mia. So maybe we're patient with different units? XD
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Post by Kilvas Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:04 pm

Lyle Dayek wrote:Lol. What are you talking about? Didn't Songbird say she loved using Soren?

And I like Soren, but you don't like Mia. So maybe we're patient with different units? XD
Well yeah. But I'm talking about the majority of people. Lol.

Lol True, everyone probably knows I don't like female units too much. Except Marcia, Titania, Lethe and Elincia.
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Post by RESSURECTED LYLE DAYEK Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:09 pm

You need to use Jill, Mia, and....

I can't really think of a third....I guess..Tanith is pretty good. XD

And then I'll use Soren my next three playthroughs. I'll even bring him to the endgame. Deal?
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Post by Kilvas Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:13 pm

Lyle Dayek wrote:You need to use Jill, Mia, and....

I can't really think of a third....I guess..Tanith is pretty good. XD

And then I'll use Soren my next three playthroughs. I'll even bring him to the endgame. Deal?
Lol, ok. Deal. I'll train Jill, Mia and Tanith, and bring them to the tower. And I promise I won't kill off Mia this playthrough. Can't say the same for Ilyana though. Lol.
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Post by RESSURECTED LYLE DAYEK Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:22 pm

Ah yes! I forgot about Illyana.

Use her and I'll upgrade Soren to 4 times. Deal?
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Post by Kilvas Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:24 pm

Lyle Dayek wrote:Ah yes! I forgot about Illyana.

Use her and I'll upgrade Soren to 4 times. Deal?
._.
Damn, I shouldn't have said anything. Fine. I'll train her too..
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Post by RESSURECTED LYLE DAYEK Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:43 pm

XD

You could always refuse. XD
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Post by Ronin Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:55 pm

I would just like to add that EXP hogging is actually a bunch of lies, but I'd rather not get into that. Am I the only one that finds it out that Tibarn dropped the whole "I KILL YOU LATER NAESALA" thing without saying a word?
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Post by RESSURECTED LYLE DAYEK Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:01 pm

Nah. I noticed that too. I figure that once he found out about the blood pact, and how everything went down the way it did that he wound up forgiving Naesala.

Or maybe he did try, but Naesala kicked his ass and they decided not to ever mention it again.
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Post by Kilvas Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:48 pm

Lyle Dayek wrote:XD

You could always refuse. XD
XD
True. But I want you to bring Soren to the tower. So I'll use them.
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Post by RESSURECTED LYLE DAYEK Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:04 pm

XD

Alright. Provided I ever play RD again. << >>
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Post by Kilvas Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:08 pm

Lyle Dayek wrote:XD

Alright. Provided I ever play RD again. << >>
Lol, well it's not like I play it anymore either. XD

Then again I finally had the chance to play FE9. Now I can import Ike and Lethe's bond. Yayz.
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Post by Rozencrutz Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:45 am

Too bad they never really expanded on any of his intresting supports....
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Post by RESSURECTED LYLE DAYEK Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:56 am

Indeed. Just the disturbing one, and the one with the catboy.

The could have at least done one with Titania. meh
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Post by Kilvas Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:53 am

Lyle Dayek wrote:Indeed. Just the disturbing one, and the one with the catboy.

The could have at least done one with Titania. meh
Or how about MIST.
Zihark woulda been cool too.
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Post by Rozencrutz Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:24 pm

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Lyle Dayek wrote:Indeed. Just the disturbing one, and the one with the catboy.

The could have at least done one with Titania. meh
Or how about MIST.
Zihark woulda been cool too.

Seriously they could of expanded on ALOT of the supports, Zihark is one of those major letdowns, considering he actually HAD some character development.
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