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Well, they give you a lot of units with issues like Sanaki, Ena, Kurth, etc etc etc and they give you a lot of uber units too: Caineghis, Naesala, Tibarn, Renning, Stefan, Volke, etc etc.
The difference, and this is the problem, is that most of the crappy units are forced. While the only good unit that is forced, is Ike.
If they allowed you to take whom you WANTED to take, like you know, what FE games are SUPPOSED to do, then having crappy units at the end is no problem. However, they force you to take at least 4 (Arguably 5 if you count Micaiah) crappy units, but if you want to take an uber unit, that goes against units you have to pick yourself. Of which you only have 10.
And I understand that Ena, Kurth, and Sanaki are important for plot, but Sothe doesn't have ANY lines except for the scene with the parchment thing. And he has just as many lines as Naesala does if he shows up. Why not just boot Sothe out of the dialogue, replace him with Ike, and then you can pick your very own extra unit.
I can GUARENTEE 95% of the people would take Volke over Sothe, if Sothe was not forced. I GUARENTEE. And if I am wrong about it, then I will stirp all my clothes off and run around in a blizzard for an hour.
The difference, and this is the problem, is that most of the crappy units are forced. While the only good unit that is forced, is Ike.
If they allowed you to take whom you WANTED to take, like you know, what FE games are SUPPOSED to do, then having crappy units at the end is no problem. However, they force you to take at least 4 (Arguably 5 if you count Micaiah) crappy units, but if you want to take an uber unit, that goes against units you have to pick yourself. Of which you only have 10.
And I understand that Ena, Kurth, and Sanaki are important for plot, but Sothe doesn't have ANY lines except for the scene with the parchment thing. And he has just as many lines as Naesala does if he shows up. Why not just boot Sothe out of the dialogue, replace him with Ike, and then you can pick your very own extra unit.
I can GUARENTEE 95% of the people would take Volke over Sothe, if Sothe was not forced. I GUARENTEE. And if I am wrong about it, then I will stirp all my clothes off and run around in a blizzard for an hour.
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I don't mind using units like Pelleas, Sanaki and all other units who are underleveled because I love challenges. The harder it is to take care of a unit, the prouder of them I am when/if they grow into an excellent unit. Even if many tantrums and throwing of Wiimotes are included in the process. They still require plenty of babying at times (I'm lookin' at you, Sanaki) but I'm so used to looking after those weaker units that I don't think I've ever really realized that it would probably be less stressful otherwise. :D
Besides, there's so many incredibly useful and overpowered units that I guess it's only fair that they throw a few difficulties our way. Keeps things interesting, in my opinion.
And on the matter of Sothe, I agree that IS made a bad call on making him pretty weak for a main character. I don't think I've liked using him in any part he's available. EXP hog in part one, beginning to be overshadowed by others in Part 3, only tolerable in Part 4. I don't mind too much on using him though, because as I mentioned before I don't really mind being forced to use weaker units. XD
Besides, there's so many incredibly useful and overpowered units that I guess it's only fair that they throw a few difficulties our way. Keeps things interesting, in my opinion.
And on the matter of Sothe, I agree that IS made a bad call on making him pretty weak for a main character. I don't think I've liked using him in any part he's available. EXP hog in part one, beginning to be overshadowed by others in Part 3, only tolerable in Part 4. I don't mind too much on using him though, because as I mentioned before I don't really mind being forced to use weaker units. XD
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This is my third attempt at posting here. Each of the last two times my internet gave out. They were both well thought out posts, and I remained articulate and explained my feelings rationally.
Now here's what I feel like saying:
Slothe Sucks.
Every other unit is useable at the very least. Slothe forces you to use him, even though he's no better than a fucking monkey.
Now here's what I feel like saying:
Slothe Sucks.
Every other unit is useable at the very least. Slothe forces you to use him, even though he's no better than a fucking monkey.
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Ouch! Stuff like that happens to me alllll the time. I remember getting so frustrated once when my essay-long post wasn't sent and I ended up losing all of it. Since then, especially because of the unstable state my computer's in, I make a habbit of copying or saving any long posts I write every so often just in case anything crashes. XD
But you got your point across about Sothe. I still like him as a character, though. :D
But you got your point across about Sothe. I still like him as a character, though. :D
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Eh. Even as a character I don't really like him. He doesn't really have much of a place in it. And he kept on trying to force himself into it.
In fact, his purpose in the story tied directly to his usefulness as a character:
Part 1: Often involved, taking spotlight from other cooler units.
Part 3: Role started to dwindle, showed how much of a wimp he was.
Part 4: Before dissappearing into uselessness he had one last little quif of attempted spotlight before suffering to the memories of the forgetfull.
In fact, his purpose in the story tied directly to his usefulness as a character:
Part 1: Often involved, taking spotlight from other cooler units.
Part 3: Role started to dwindle, showed how much of a wimp he was.
Part 4: Before dissappearing into uselessness he had one last little quif of attempted spotlight before suffering to the memories of the forgetfull.
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Lol. You like to get real technical about characters and stats and such. I don't like doing that, it doesn't make it much fun. I just use who I like and that's it. Even if they are "bad units". By all means, let them be, it adds to the challenge.
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Princess Kilvas wrote:Lol. You like to get real technical about characters and stats and such. I don't like doing that, it doesn't make it much fun. I just use who I like and that's it. =x
I have to admit, I'm usually pretty much the exact same way. XD
Supports were another way I'd decide what characters I'd bring in a playthrough, but Radiant Dawn destroyed the support system so I can't use it in this case. D:
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Lol. Well, yeah. But usually my favorite units are the ones that have good stats. Those who don't have good stats, tend to try my patience. As Slothe has inevitably done.
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Lol, I guess I just have more patience then. xD
But nobody seems to like my units. Especially Master Soren. D:
But nobody seems to like my units. Especially Master Soren. D:
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Lol. What are you talking about? Didn't Songbird say she loved using Soren?
And I like Soren, but you don't like Mia. So maybe we're patient with different units? XD
And I like Soren, but you don't like Mia. So maybe we're patient with different units? XD
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Well yeah. But I'm talking about the majority of people. Lol.Lyle Dayek wrote:Lol. What are you talking about? Didn't Songbird say she loved using Soren?
And I like Soren, but you don't like Mia. So maybe we're patient with different units? XD
Lol True, everyone probably knows I don't like female units too much. Except Marcia, Titania, Lethe and Elincia.
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You need to use Jill, Mia, and....
I can't really think of a third....I guess..Tanith is pretty good. XD
And then I'll use Soren my next three playthroughs. I'll even bring him to the endgame. Deal?
I can't really think of a third....I guess..Tanith is pretty good. XD
And then I'll use Soren my next three playthroughs. I'll even bring him to the endgame. Deal?
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Lol, ok. Deal. I'll train Jill, Mia and Tanith, and bring them to the tower. And I promise I won't kill off Mia this playthrough.Lyle Dayek wrote:You need to use Jill, Mia, and....
I can't really think of a third....I guess..Tanith is pretty good. XD
And then I'll use Soren my next three playthroughs. I'll even bring him to the endgame. Deal?
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Ah yes! I forgot about Illyana.
Use her and I'll upgrade Soren to 4 times. Deal?
Use her and I'll upgrade Soren to 4 times. Deal?
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._.Lyle Dayek wrote:Ah yes! I forgot about Illyana.
Use her and I'll upgrade Soren to 4 times. Deal?
Damn, I shouldn't have said anything. Fine. I'll train her too..
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XD
You could always refuse. XD
You could always refuse. XD
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Nah. I noticed that too. I figure that once he found out about the blood pact, and how everything went down the way it did that he wound up forgiving Naesala.
Or maybe he did try, but Naesala kicked his ass and they decided not to ever mention it again.
Or maybe he did try, but Naesala kicked his ass and they decided not to ever mention it again.
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XDLyle Dayek wrote:XD
You could always refuse. XD
True. But I want you to bring Soren to the tower. So I'll use them.
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XD
Alright.Provided I ever play RD again. << >>
Alright.
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Lol, well it's not like I play it anymore either. XDLyle Dayek wrote:XD
Alright.Provided I ever play RD again. << >>
Then again I finally had the chance to play FE9. Now I can import Ike and Lethe's bond. Yayz.
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Too bad they never really expanded on any of his intresting supports....
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Indeed. Just the disturbing one, and the one with the catboy.
The could have at least done one with Titania.
The could have at least done one with Titania.
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Or how about MIST.Lyle Dayek wrote:Indeed. Just the disturbing one, and the one with the catboy.
The could have at least done one with Titania.
Zihark woulda been cool too.
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Princess Kilvas wrote:Or how about MIST.Lyle Dayek wrote:Indeed. Just the disturbing one, and the one with the catboy.
The could have at least done one with Titania.
Zihark woulda been cool too.
Seriously they could of expanded on ALOT of the supports, Zihark is one of those major letdowns, considering he actually HAD some character development.
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