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Post by Fondos Aquila Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:09 am

OK, recently I've been doing some lurking, and I've found that despite what we all originally thought, B/W is a legitimate game, and I believe they did an amazing job with it.

First off, I believe this topic needs some music. The name of it has "spoilers", but honestly guys; it's pokemon. We don't play it for "story".

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Anyways, though most of the pokemon do look... kinda unfitting, looking through at their final evos(the only ones that really matter), I've found that their designs fit for the most part.

The stat distribution on most pokemon are fairly good as well. The new abilities and moves fit in too, and lots of OLD pokemon were given VERY nice new tricks with the addition of DREAM WORLD ABILITIES. I'm not exactly sure how this works yet, but I've gotten a lot of info from Smogon's "Uncharted Territory" sub-forum. Here are a few notable things for you competitive battlers.

Ninetails got Drought. For those of you who don't know, this used to be a Groudon Exclusive ability. It brings out permanent sun., like Sandstream.

Politoed got Drizzle. Which was Kyogre's ability before. Same as Drought, but with rain instead. Yeah. Weather teams just got a LOT more effective.

And, very noticably, ALL starters now have access to DIFFERENT ABILITIES. That's right. And they aren't the same, either. Blaziken gets Speed Boost(boosts speed every turn), Charizard has Solar Power(lose 1/8th Hp in sun each turn for 50% SpAtk increase), Infernape got Iron Fist(Increase all punch attack damage by 20%), Blastoise got Rain dish(Restore 1/16th Hp in rain), Swampert gets Damp, etc, etc. It's getting crazy in here.

Another thing. B/W has added FULL ANIMATIONS throughout the battle sequence. The pokemon are no longer just sprites moving up and down. They have actual movements and faint animations from the looks of it.

Really, I can't say much right now in the post, but I'd like you guys to check out the Smog forum. just look around, see what your fave pokemon are capable of now, or find favorite new ones( the Fire/Bug Uragamosu really has my eye). If you have new sets or ideas or just want to talk about it, discuss!!

P.S. - Random vid of a Wifi battle for B/W. This guy is actually pretty good, but the main attraction is just seeing the animations and game in action.
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Post by Fondos Aquila Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:30 am

Also for those interested, a bunch of pokemon sprites animated have been ripped and are downloadable here http://www.mediafire.com/?q7o6wgqfai9c456. I haven't found a way to use it as my Avi yet, so if someone could figure it out...


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Post by Grunge Hamster Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:34 am

good stuff. I guess this dispels some of the worries i had about the game. im looking foward to playing now.
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Post by Kilvas Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:46 pm

I'm sure it's a great game, I still plan on buying it. I'm just dissapointed in some of the new pokemon. Lol.
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Post by Fondos Aquila Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:33 pm

Well, I look at it from a more competitive aspect, so I'm sure our views would be different
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Post by Kilvas Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:56 pm

Yeah, but I do like some of the Dream World abilities. I may hold off training on a few pokemon so I can get them with a Dream World ability.

And alot of the new abilites and attacks are pretty interesting too.
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Post by Fondos Aquila Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:22 pm

I think I forgot the link to Uncharted territory as well.

http://www.smogon.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=144
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Post by Rise: The Game Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:40 am

This is gamestop's current case for black, it so evil and intimidating.

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I hope this is the official one
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Post by RESSURECTED LYLE DAYEK Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:09 am

That's really it?

Simple. Yet effective.

It would really creep me out though. It would make me think that Pokemon's gone evil. All they need is a pair of Gengar eyes in the background, and I'd officially piss my pants.

Yes. It would be official.
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Post by Rise: The Game Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:09 am

all it needs for maximum creepy level is a period at the end.
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Post by Fondos Aquila Sat Oct 16, 2010 12:24 am

World just got fucking insane.

B/W shoddy. It's not even Shoddy. It's BETTER than Shoddy, graphically and function-wise.

Gentlemen(and Kilvas). Welcome to Pokemon Online.

http://pokemon-online.eu/downloads/Client_17.html

Has a much more aesthetically pleasing team builder, with colors, descriptions of moves, as well as a built in pokedex. Includes all 5th Gen pokes. You have trainer sprites, and win/loss messages, and can even opt for music while battling.
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Post by Rise: The Game Sat Oct 16, 2010 2:14 am

Celestial Desu wrote:World just got fucking insane.

B/W shoddy. It's not even Shoddy. It's BETTER than Shoddy, graphically and function-wise.

Gentlemen(and Kilvas). Welcome to Pokemon Online.

http://pokemon-online.eu/downloads/Client_17.html

Has a much more aesthetically pleasing team builder, with colors, descriptions of moves, as well as a built in pokedex. Includes all 5th Gen pokes. You have trainer sprites, and win/loss messages, and can even opt for music while battling.


erection obtained.

also, new shoddy obtained.
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Post by Tatsuya Sat Oct 16, 2010 2:19 am

Can I say something off topic, when I see it being called Pokemon Black and White I keep thinking back to l4d since I keep thinking that the pokemon will get killed the next time a wild boomer appears.

Also they need to make a boomer a pokemon.
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Post by Rise: The Game Sat Oct 16, 2010 2:21 am

oh ahaha I get it.

also, that would be kinda funny.

"Go little cute pokemon!"

"Go BOOOMERRRRRR"
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Post by Fondos Aquila Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:21 pm

It works really well. I've been using a few of the 5th Gen pokes. So far my favorite is the Deer. Herbivore eats all grass moves, including leech seed and stun spore n what not.

Pokemon like Infernape and Espeon are serving me well too. Frickin magic Mirror espeon is so broken. reflects back ALL sorts of status effect. leech seed, confuse, Sleep power, STEALTH ROCK, TAUNT. Broken
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Post by Arc Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:55 pm

I always liked magic mirror, but I've never seen it used competitively before.

Psych up too.
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Post by Fondos Aquila Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:46 am

Metal Rabbit wrote:I always liked magic mirror, but I've never seen it used competitively before.

Psych up too.

Magic Mirror is new. It's an ABILITY that does this. Automatically. It's going to be the sole reason for Espeon's Rise to OU
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Post by Fondos Aquila Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:01 pm

Just so everyone knows, the Sea Turtle pokemon is a fuckin BEAST.
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Post by Kilvas Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:29 pm

Awesome, I trained on training it. Lol. How's the other fossil? And the chandelier thing?
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Post by Fondos Aquila Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:38 am

The Shandelier is frickin amazing. With Shadow Tag, it absolutely wrecks.

Dunno what the other fossil is. the bird thing?
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Post by Rise: The Game Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:06 am

This sounds weird and stupid, but bishop, make me a team. As you know, the best way for me to actually get hype/into something is to actually try it. If you could make a random team for me and just send me the file I can try it before work today. Its also a good way to expose me to moves/abilities I dont know about (but still plzzzz let me have espeon lol)
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Post by Fondos Aquila Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:04 pm

I'll try, but it's hard to really find one that will fit this metagame
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Post by Fondos Aquila Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:09 am

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Post by Kilvas Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:00 pm

Celestial Desu wrote:The Shandelier is frickin amazing. With Shadow Tag, it absolutely wrecks.

Dunno what the other fossil is. the bird thing?
Yayz, I wanna train the chandelier. lol.
And yeah.
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Post by Toriko Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:01 pm

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I hate that thing so much, it wrecked my team along with mew and tyrannitar
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